Torrents, Suprnova et all
News, P2P Technology - Clients December 20th, 2004
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Torrents, Suprnova et all
The torrent community is in “shock and awe” today. Suprnova, internet’s most popular torrent tracker site is now permanently offline. Its owner, Sloncek isn’t available for comment. The MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) had indicated a few days back that they were planning to go after Bittorrent sites because an increasing amount of movies, games and was being traded in torrent form.
Ever since bittorrents.org, suprnova.org and other torrent sites have gone offline, related newsgroups, IRC networks are flooded with users and messages wondering what has happened. Downloading files in torrent form has increasingly become popular in 2004 as single sites do not need to host the actual files. They only provide directions to where the files are hosted (either on web servers or the computers of individuals.) The Register published an analysis on 18 Dec that stated “BitTorrent traffic made up 53 per cent of all P2P traffic in June 2004″. It is safe to assume that Bittorrent had only increased its share of p2p traffic before the tracker sites were closed down.
Bittorrent sites around the globe have gone dark. A French torrent site is also offline due to the threat of raids from French police. Sources say that the raid threats were real and therefore these sites went offline voluntarily. Bittorrent tracker sites of movies and games that are online even now are trying to cope under heavy volumes of traffic. It is early to say if these sites are going to remain online after they are contacted by the MPAA.
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It’s so funny. MPAA represents companies in a billion dollar a year industry that conistantly sees increases in sales and profits. INCREASES IN SALES AND PROFITS. But that’s not enough for them, they have to have more. This trading of movies used to happen at people’s homes. It was called VHS and people traded movies all the time. Most people I know had collections of movies that were recorded from TV and other friends. Now that the practice has been taken online, big media has seen all of the potential money flying by in 1’s and 0’s. Big media can’t keep their greedy hands off of it. Currently, there are more than 10 movies that grossed well over 200 million dollars in profits in the past year 2004. You think that would be enough to satisfy their greed? Nope. This was never a fight about the copyright holder’s rights. This fight has always and will continue to be about money. Money money money. When media companies were convicted and fined for artificially increasing prices for CD’s and Tapes a few years ago, almost no one noticed. I wonder if it’s because they own the same companies that give us our news? Anyway, they’ve been stealing from the consumer for years. Now that we have a chance to level the playing field, Big Media is pissed. Let them try to sue us all to death. We will prevail beause we are many. All the money in the world can’t stop such a quickly growing market. Don’t worry about the bittorrent sites, they’re already being reposted on other domains and hosted on servers that are located in Countries where the MPAA’s reach is weak. MPAA is running scared to death. They see the end is coming for them and companies they represent. The landscape is changing and they are scared because they can’t control it. If they can’t control the distribution they can’t make their profit margins soar to new grotesque heights. This is the last death rattle of a failing and currupt industry.
Another factor making online file-sharing less of a problem for the movie industry is that it has a much more diverse revenue model. In addition to the sale of movie tickets, money comes in from co-branding deals, merchandising, DVD sales and fees from cable TV networks.
this day should be in history. and the day suprnova comes back. god… i think the worlds coming to an end…..
Au-revoir SuprNova
La page d’accueil de SuprNova, le principal site recensant les fichiers partagés par BitTorrent, n’est plus accessible. Un peu plus tôt, elle annonçait:
Greetings everybody,
As you have probably noticed, we have often had downtimes. This was…
SuprNova No More
Unlike most people, I was only introduced to the wonders of the BitTorrent system fairly recently. And as any BitTorrent-er will tell you, the most popular BitTorrent file-sharing site is SuprNova.org. Well, not any more. SuprNova.org, the most popular…
Bittorrent and p2p will never die. WHen they take one down, ten new systems will spring up.
All Hail Bittorrent!
Long Live Bram Cohen!!
You know, all these companies need to do, is make movies, cd’s, etc., less expensive and more accessable, people simply wouldn’t bother trying to download everything then… But as Ben said, greed is the key and one day, I believe there will have to be a compromise.
Before file sharing came along DVD’s, Cd’s etc where much more expensive it is because of p2p that prices have reduced, hopefully now that it looks like p2p may be coming to an end the record industry etc. will not feel they can increase their prices again!
Now we must simply wait for the completely distributed bittorrent clients to be finished. The MPAA isn’t helping themselves at all… torrents will only become completely decentralized and impossible to track.
Good job, old boys!
File sharing can never be stopped! We will always find a way to share. The perpetual war between Media and people will continue allways. I see how the MPAA want to make more money but they should understand that their industry can only grow with the intrest of movies wich is fueld by free sharing in p2p form. Both sides have a good case but in the end (end of internet freedom) p2p will prove champion.
I wonder what badboy sloncek has to say about all this (the founder of the great suprnova site)…..
Crap like this, trading warez, has been going on for as long as there were computers. The MPAA/RIAA can sue till they’re blue in the face and try to intimidate as much as they want. It will just switch forms, move to some other medium or go back underground.
They are just getting pissed cuz it’s opening up to the general public. Whereas before, you needed some knowledge to get stuff (bulletin boards, irc, usenet, ftp) now you can just click on a link. That’s why they hated Napster and Kazaa, and that’s why they hate torrents now. They will always accept certain amount of trading, but when it hits the mainstream and average people are able to access it, then it is usually game over.
Don’t think they are trying to end sharing, they know they can’t. They just want to keep it out of reach to the average person.
The p2p community of bt can never die , if not suprnova ..there will be somemthing else.
Yeah i loved suprnova. it was a great site.. thank you all the people behind suprnova for all those great movies , softwares,games,mp3s i downloaded of you and saved a lot of money on crap
The p2p world is evolving. Just because one form of it such as bittorent is attacked by the mpaa and a small victory is acheived by shutting down some sites does not spell an end to the practice and use. The fact is that the mpaa can not shut down every single computer in the world. File sharing is too diverse and far too elusive for any one power group to shut down.
The mapaa’s actions have done only one thing and that is to alienate more and more p2p enthusiasts. Many of us will now spend more effort to avoid paying the movie studios anything and will devote more time to finding yet better ways to share files that are impervious to mpaa efforts.
If p2p ever did go away completely, just think of all the faster DSL, etc. accounts that wouldn’t be needed. Are you ISPs worried yet? Personally, after seeing how long a legit DVD took to download, I never bothered to try, nor for music either. There are enough used CDs/DVDs in the pawnshops, since people decide they don’t like them after getting them at member prices.
I find the action taken by the MPAA one less serious than that of those who live in the USA and are under fear US government. I am not saying “FEAR ME FOR THE GOVERNMENT WILL COME AND WISK YA AWAY !!!”, what I am saying is that everyone who is using Bittorrents or P2P is acknowledging that they are commentting a crime whether or not they are computer savvy to know that they are. I personnally wonder when I send out my IP address to those Bittorrent site or P2P link that on the other end is a US Government waiting to get that Internet ID and catch me on the spot. Its possible on any link we click on or any file we download illegally, even though we tend to buy the CD or the DVD or even the software. The only thing I think that keeps them away is the time and money they do not wish to waste on us. But than there is than one day . . . I am not saying I will stop downloading or I am scaring others to stop but I am just merely say that we all need to remember what we are doing and that stuff like this will happen till there is nothing left of Rebel Freedom Networks.
The Unofficial SuprNova.org Closure FAQ
SilentDragz has compiled a ‘decent’ FAQ list about SuprNova.org’s closure. View the full list at http://www.silentdragz.net/suprfaq
11. Why has SuprNova.org closed?
bit torrent represents the pinalce of humanity people coming together sharing their wandwidth and there geek savy no money involved the only time in history when such an event has happened
when will the companies realize that intellucal property belongs to society at whole if there is no profit being made by the sharers and the company that produces the media posts a proft where is the problem
if karl marx could see this
vive the hyra that is bit torrent! vive bram cohen! vive la revoultion
Obviously, the MPAA does not like the first amendment. Since when is it illegal to give instructions for illegal activity? Well, when the British were in charge, they banned publication of primitive bomb-making instructions.
And then, a couple of guys named Washington, Adams, and Jefferson told King George, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.” That was the first time in history that something like that ever happened.
So, I would like to thank the 90 million Americans who fought and died in every war we fought to preserve the rights that we enjoy: Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of the Press.
It is that third one that the MPAA doesn’t like. Punishing people who sell bootleg DVDs on the streets of New York and Los Angeles is one thing; punishing those who simply give links (instructions) to downloads is a blatent violation of the 1st Amendment.
So, MPAA, I say this: Come after me for posting this message criticizing you. Stifle those in opposition. But just remember, it is the 1st Amendment that gives you the right to produce what you do.
God Bless America
Suprnova will come back! A big fish like this one won’t die in centuries. We are not in flinstone’s age, NET is the power.
For all i know is that MPAA/RIAA can kiss our asses. fucken greed ass bitches, they will have to fight and fight and fight and fight and we won’t give our arms to twist.
Netflix + dvd burner.