I asked a question similar to this to a friend on Opera IRC Channel who is an Email Administrator in a University and maintains a really helpful site on web development and standards. He is a major supporter of Opera though he uses almost every browser I have heard of (and many more) all the time.
The question was:
Why don’t you like Firefox?
The answer was pretty simple.
I don’t dislike Firefox. I just don’t like the Firefox users that are spread all around the web.
Well, that was a pretty accurate observation on his part coz I have had similar feelings. Firefox is a pretty darn good product. But the way it is projected by its users (or fanboys more appropriately), it makes me sick. They want to make me believe since its open source, it’s better than anything else out there. Well, as I have already mentioned that in another post before, it’s kind of sickening. For one being open source does not necessarily makes a product better. Give me a better argument. They can’t accept any comment against that browser! They cannot accept anyone claiming that some other browser is better than it. They blast any opera users that happen to venture on their forums. And well, they simply are not worth arguing with.
It’s not that all the Firefox fans are bad. I know many nice ones. Who take positive criticism politely. And who just don’t label us Opera fans as fans of a browser made by a company which is greedy for money! Just because Opera comes with ads in the free version.
But at least, it does not beg for donations. Boy, people need to earn mate. Would you work for free at your work place?
But most of the people who I meet on forums (like on Neowin) are a real pain in the ass. And I don’t even dare to visit Mozilla forums anymore. Because I prefer opera over Mozilla and people there just can’t accept that fact. And term me as a troll!
Duh…
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July 30th, 2004 at 12:50 pm
Yes, I agree that some of the Firefox users and Mozilla users do have a religious zealotry that is somewhat disturbing.
I don’t mind people who love something and can defend it in the face of competition, but precious few Mozilla/Firefox defenders seem to have really given Opera a good honest attempt.
August 6th, 2004 at 08:09 pm
I like Firefox, but I’m sure Opera’s OK to. Just don’t use Internet Explorer. IE is for n00bs who don’t care about the well-being of their machines.
October 11th, 2004 at 08:26 pm
There truly are a lot of Firefox evangelicals out there but I don’t really mind so much. So far none of them have called my home during the dinner hour to push their browser or whatever.
October 13th, 2004 at 01:52 pm
if affiliate linking offering gifts for telemarketing you would have been getting calls as well! :lol:
just kidding…
November 14th, 2004 at 03:55 am
Firefox Vs. Opera
If Opera were open source, many others, and I, would have a hard time picking between them. Both browsers have good features, are fast and secure. The reason I chose Firefox over Opera is the fact that it’s open source.
If I were to have a problem w…
November 14th, 2004 at 03:55 am
Firefox Vs. Opera
If Opera were open source, many others, and I, would have a hard time picking between them. Both browsers have good features, are fast and secure. The reason I chose Firefox over Opera is the fact that it’s open source.
If I were to have a problem w…
November 17th, 2004 at 10:47 am
Well, I don’t think open source per se makes a product better, but I di think peer review makes a product better, and although it’s possible to be open source without peer review – you have to work pretty hard at it. On the other hand it takes considerable extra effort to produce closed source products with peer review – most of the “review” in closed source are forums whose neutrality is purposely undermined whenever possible, and while this gives those organizations a short term gain of increasing market share, it also costs them long term advantages in improving the product.
Admittedly, some open source fan(atic)s are willing to put in that kind of extra effort to undermine peer review – the mere fact that they’re advocating open source without realizing that the basis of it’s better security is not some law of nature (and annoying the heck out of you in the process) is an indicator of that. But nonetheless the fact that open source products invite peer review by their nature tends to work in favor of better security for less investment of time and energy.
Mind you, *I* am an open source fanatic myself, so take all this with a grain of salt, but maybe this will help you understand how we get that way –
November 27th, 2004 at 05:35 pm
The fact that a thousand hackers have access to the source code doesn’t mean it’s got less bugs. These programs (Moz etc.,etc.) are large and complex and take a lot of study to figure out. A proprietry (closed source) company with a structured development process coud produce cleaner code.
W.